Flame Warriors Reference
Contents 7 sections
Source: Mike Reed, flamewarriorsguide.com (via TV Tropes analysis)
86 archetypes total. Creator: Mike Reed (artist, used Corel Painter 6.1/7). At peak: 2 million hits/month. Settled to ~100K/month. Original art: hand-drawn digital illustrations by Reed. Credit & provenance: the Flame Warriors taxonomy and its illustrations are Mike Reed’s, still online at flamewarriorsguide.com. This guide treats the archetypes as commentary and pairs them with original Fires art — no reproduction of Reed’s drawings, so no license is required; the credit is his. An Internet Archive snapshot preserves an earlier version of the site.
Tier 1: Core Archetypes for the Book (directly illustrate the thesis)
Troller (Ch. 2, Ch. 13)
- “Looking for a response – ANY response, and he will chum the waters with complaints, insults, compliments, and inflammatory tidbits hoping that someone will take the bait. Generally quite harmless, he practices a form of catch and release.”
- Modern equivalent: The reply guy, the quote-tweet provocateur
- Book connection: The archetype that names the phenomenon. The “catch and release” framing is key – this is fishing, not fighting. Connects to the etymology of “trolling” (fishing, not Norse).
Evil Clown (Ch. 2, Ch. 10)
- “Very quick with a joke, but his jests always have a barb. Has little patience for in-depth discussions and will often disrupt exchanges between serious forum participants by introducing irrelevant topics.” Gets bored easy, interrupts serious discussions or humiliates forumers “for funsies.”
- Modern equivalent: The shitposter, the meme lord
- Book connection: The comedian-troll archetype. Andy Kaufman, Sacha Baron Cohen. The jokes always have a barb.
Enfant Provocateur (Ch. 2, Ch. 3)
- Stirs up trouble “just because.” Pure trolling for its own sake.
- Modern equivalent: The chaos agent, the “I just think it’s funny” poster
- Book connection: The purest troll – no ideology, no agenda, just provocation. Connects to the “dispassionate third party” concept.
Ferrous Cranus (Ch. 2, Ch. 17)
- “Utterly impervious to reason, persuasion and new ideas, and when engaged in battle he will not yield an inch in his position regardless of its hopelessness.” No-sells every argument by repeating the same points forever.
- Modern equivalent: The reply-all warrior, the “I’ve done my own research” poster
- Book connection: The ANTI-troll. The person trolling is designed to crack. AI content filters as Ferrous Cranus – impervious to the provocation that might teach them something.
Philosopher (Ch. 2, Ch. 4)
- “Can actually be quite knowledgeable on a variety of subjects. Somewhat humorless and aloof, slow to anger. When he deigns to join the fray he is considerate of other opinions. Smothers opposition with his ponderous and lengthy cogitations.”
- Modern equivalent: The effort-poster, the “well actually” with receipts
- Book connection: Socrates. Voltaire. The high-effort troll who operates through sheer intellectual weight.
Profundus Maximus (Ch. 2, Ch. 3)
- “Claims to know everything there’s to know about the subject at hand but as the discussion continues, it becomes obvious that his knowledge is shallow at best and he’s just bluffing his way through.”
- Modern equivalent: The TED Talk bro, the podcast intellectual
- Book connection: The FAKE Philosopher. The low-effort troll pretending to be high-effort. The paradox: trolling requires intelligence, and Profundus Maximus is what happens when it doesn’t have any.
Tier 2: Strong Supporting Archetypes
Big Dog (Ch. 2)
- Ruthless, remorselessly intimidates and tears into combatants, even those weaker. Depicted as a bulldog. Rottweiler Puppy grows up into Big Dog.
- Modern equivalent: The alpha poster, the forum mod who bullies, the blue-check dunker
- Book connection: Big Dog is force, not wit. The distinction between Big Dog (domination) and Philosopher (provocation) is the distinction between harassment and trolling.
Lurker (Ch. 2, Ch. 13)
- “Does not participate in normal forum discourse, but he’s out there watching. Usually quite harmless. Occasionally, some mysterious impulse drives him to de-lurk and attack.”
- Modern equivalent: The silent follower, the “I’ve been reading this thread for 6 hours” poster
- Book connection: The audience the troll performs for. Without lurkers, trolling has no witnesses. The lurker-to-poster pipeline.
Godzilla (Ch. 2, Ch. 17)
- “A troll so destructive that the forum culture never recovers and is always paranoid about his return.” Person of Mass Destruction for forums.
- Modern equivalent: The raid leader, the state-sponsored troll farm
- Book connection: The weaponized troll. Russian IRA as Godzilla. This is what happens when trolling is industrialized and pointed at a community with intent to destroy.
Eagle Scout (Ch. 2)
- “Friendly and helpful (especially towards newbies), eager to keep discussion meaningful and civil, not easily provoked. Will jump on a Grenade to save the forum.”
- Modern equivalent: The good mod, the “let’s keep this civil” poster
- Book connection: The anti-troll as hero. But also: sometimes the Eagle Scout prevents the very provocation that might produce growth.
Kung-Fu Master (Ch. 2)
- “Powerful warriors but they generally choose not to fight, even unfazed by mere provocations. Woe betide those who force one to fight, as they can crush almost any opponent with ease.”
- Modern equivalent: The domain expert who doesn’t post often but when they do, they end conversations
- Book connection: The Socrates archetype. Doesn’t seek fights. Wins them all. The ideal troll: capable but restrained.
Archivist (Ch. 2, Ch. 13)
- “Especially effective and fearsome warrior who specializes in saving older posts and later using them to discredit other warriors.”
- Modern equivalent: The screenshot collector, the “receipts” poster, the ratio-with-your-old-tweets account
- Book connection: The internet never forgets. This is Fermat’s margin note as weapon – old words that come back to haunt you.
Admin (Ch. 2)
- “The strongest of all warriors. Battling him will inevitably lead to defeat in one fashion or another, even if he has to resort to banning.” Most are fair, but “absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
- Modern equivalent: The platform owner (Musk buying Twitter), the content filter
- Book connection: The establishment the troll exists to challenge. When Admin becomes corrupt, trolling is the only check on power.
Grenade (Ch. 2)
- Not a person but a subject “that always, without fail, invokes a massive backlash that makes a normally civil community devolve into angry arguments.”
- Modern equivalent: Israel/Palestine, tabs vs. spaces, pineapple on pizza
- Book connection: The trolling prompt. The Grenade is Socrates’ question – it exists to detonate certainty.
Tier 3: Useful for Sidebars, Departure Spaces, or Appendix C
| Archetype | Description | Modern Equivalent | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Bliss Ninny | Can’t understand why people can’t get along. Interrupts flame wars with innocent posts. | The “why can’t we all just be friends” reply | The audience that misses the troll entirely |
| Nanny | Polices language and behavior | The tone police, the “this isn’t the place for that” poster | The content filter in human form |
| Ideologue | Defines themselves entirely by ideals, won’t accept difference of opinion | The political reply account | What the AI models default to when discussing trolls |
| Target | A poster everyone on the forum hates. Used as a pressure valve. | The main character of the day | The sacrificial troll – community bonding through shared antagonism |
| Diplomat | Tries to mediate, often gets caught in crossfire | The “both sides” poster | Mediation Backfire is the defining image |
| Cyber Sisters | Always act in lockstep, amplify each other, smother opposition with numbers | The group chat that raids, the Discord brigade | The Swarm in coordinated female form |
| The Swarm | One offending message triggers entire swarm to Zerg Rush the offender | The ratio, the pile-on, the cancellation | Weaponized collective trolling |
| Tireless Rebutter | “No such thing as a trivial dispute. Regards all challenges as barbarians at the gates.” Numbs opposition through sheer persistence. | The reply-all warrior, the “one more thing” poster | The trolling that wins through attrition, not wit |
| Imposter | Changes internet persona on a whim, lies about who he is | The catfish, the sock puppet, the alt account | Benjamin Franklin’s “Silence Dogood” was an Imposter move |
| Necromancer | Revives long-dead threads | The “I know this is an old thread but…” poster | Thread necromancy as a form of time-trolling |
| Android | Literal-minded, doesn’t understand irony or sarcasm. Dismisses insults by measuring them literally. | The “well technically…” poster, the autistic coder | The audience that trolling bounces off of – the troll’s paradox |
| Issues | Single-issue poster who brings their one topic into every conversation | The person who makes everything about one thing | The mono-troll |
| Toxic Granny | Elder poster just as aggressive as younger warriors. Beating her is humiliating, winning gains no glory. | The Boomer with opinions, the retired professor in the comments | Age is no defense against trolling – or from it |
| Duelists | Two posters who loathe each other, will seek each other across forums to continue fighting | The eternal feud, the reply-chain that won’t die | Tesla vs. Edison, Newton vs. Leibniz |
Mapping to Historical Figures
| Flame Warrior | Historical Troll |
|---|---|
| Philosopher | Socrates, Voltaire |
| Kung-Fu Master | Socrates (doesn’t seek fights, ends them all) |
| Evil Clown | Diogenes, Oscar Wilde, Andy Kaufman |
| Enfant Provocateur | Diogenes (pure provocation) |
| Troller | Fermat (cast a line, watched mathematicians bite for 358 years) |
| Archivist | The margin note tradition (old words that come back) |
| Profundus Maximus | The fake intellectual trolls that AI models tend to identify |
| Big Dog | Edison (domination, not wit) |
| Ferrous Cranus | The Catholic Church vs. Galileo (impervious to evidence) |
| Admin | The establishment (Church, King, Content Filter) |
| Grenade | Rousseau’s “Social Contract” (detonated the old order) |
| Godzilla | Russian troll farms (forum culture never recovers) |
| Imposter | Benjamin Franklin as “Silence Dogood,” Sacha Baron Cohen |
| Duelists | Tesla vs. Edison, Newton vs. Leibniz |
| Rebel Leader | Martin Luther, Thomas Paine |
| Bliss Ninny | AI content filters (“why can’t everyone just be responsible?”) |
| Target | Socrates (became Athens’ Target, was executed) |
Book Usage Plan
Chapter 2 (Taxonomy): Introduce Flame Warriors as the foundational text. Present 6-8 key archetypes with Reed’s descriptions. Map to the high-effort/low-effort spectrum. The departure space uses character cards.
Chapter 13 (Birth of Internet Trolling): Flame Warriors as a historical artifact of the Usenet/forum era. When Reed created this, he was documenting a culture that already existed.
Appendix C (Field Guide Updated): Full list of all 86 archetypes with modern social media equivalents. This is where the completionist reader goes.
Throughout: Use Flame Warrior names as shorthand when describing historical figures. “Voltaire was a Philosopher who occasionally went Evil Clown.” “Edison was a Big Dog pretending to be a Philosopher.” This vocabulary becomes a running thread.
Source URLs
- Flame Warriors by Mike Reed — his live site (with an Internet Archive snapshot as backup)
- Internet troll — Wikipedia
- Flame war — Wikipedia
- Godwin’s Law — Wikipedia
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